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Fishing for Support Chat -- AUGUST, 2001



[MrFishy] WELCOME EVERYONE!!!!

[SFishy] okie dokie everyone... lets get started
[SFishy] Just a quick reminder...
[SFishy] The same rules that apply to the bulletin boards and all our chats apply here --
[SFishy] and all we expect is that each person here TRIES their best to participate...
[SFishy] we'll be asking questions and prompting you when to answer

[MrFishy] TRY is the goal!

[SFishy] so ... HERE WE GO...

[MrFishy] okays....
[MrFishy] now...
[MrFishy] were gonna play a little game....
[MrFishy] a visualization game....
[MrFishy] imagine for a sec...
[MrFishy] that you are in a house....
[MrFishy] it can be any house....
[MrFishy] exactly the way you want it to look....
[MrFishy] 5 blocks away from that house...
[MrFishy] is a store...
[MrFishy] and you REALLY need to get to that store to buy YOU something....
[MrFishy] i want you to imagine...
[MrFishy] an obsracle on each block...
[MrFishy] that could keep you from getting to that store....
[MrFishy] and I want you all to share those obstacles with us....

[lori] Car accident at one corner and no one allowed through
[harshreality] a walking salesman
[Kellicious] Angry Dogs!
[froggyone] snow
[penguinlady] bar
[kenmarie] a train
[heavenlymists] friends,my mom,dark ally,salsman
[candylion] well on block, a gand of scarey people
[jcardall] dead animal
[kers] a big man giving me the evil eye
[havenly] no money
[penguinlady] lmy dad whose dead
[kenmarie] detour
[heavenlymists] and a big dog
[Kellicious] Construction.
[elise_gardens] earthqua ke
[lori] My 8th grade history teacher
[froggyone] a group of friends
[nas] i am in wisconsin and all the streets are flooded so i can't walk or drive
[heavenlymists] forgetting my wallet
[candylion] my step dad in the middle of the pavement
[harshreality] people just watching you..
[jcardall] laziness!
[harshreality] stalkers?
[juliaf] bugs
[penguinlady] my wedding dress
[Kellicious] an ex boyfriend
[quinn] don't want to buy any thing
[nas] my hair is looking bad so i can't go out of the house
[kenmarie] scared
[lori] a bear escaped from zoo
[froggyone] flooding
[candylion] a drunk man who is shouting
[jcardall] too tired
[kathryn] getting lost
[harshreality] pot hole
[froggyone] crime scene
[jcardall] too many people out
[penguinlady] picures of me when i was tooooo thin
[lion] someone seeing me
[harshreality] excuses
[Kellicious] traffic
[kenmarie] fresh paint on the street
[quinn] don't want to leave the house
[heavenlymists] forgetting what i was going to buy
[jcardall] it is totally sunny and you are an albino
[nas] it's too cold out
[heavenlymists] i always do that
[elise_gardens] for nothing to wearus or f
[havenly] i trip and break a leg
[quinn] phone rings
[harshreality] store closes!
[penguinlady] papers to be graded
[quinn] do not like stores
[penguinlady] files to be finished
[kathryn] not wanting to go
[candylion] some people having a fight
[penguinlady] my new daughter of 7
[kenmarie] gang
[penguinlady] a drink
[quinn] need to go to the bath room
[heavenlymists] homwaork
[elise_gardens] panic
[kenmarie] not aloud to go
[penguinlady] spec. ed director
[heavenlymists] homework*
[kathryn] not a nice neighbourhood
[quinn] still in sleeping attire
[lion] too far
[candylion] some teenagers watchinh everyone walk past
[nas] i look bad
[froggyone] homework
[jcardall] no one to go with
[lori] motorcicle gang
[penguinlady] people laughing
[harshreality] too scary
[froggyone] window shopping
[heavenlymists] people staring at me
[quinn] tired

[MrFishy] GOOD ANSWERS!!

[SFishy] thanks for sharing all!
[SFishy] boy, this is SOME neighborhood ;)
[SFishy] but EVERY obstacle can be overcome somehow...
[SFishy] We walk out our front doors...
[SFishy] and down the street...
[SFishy] the first obstacle we come to is on Briar Street
[SFishy] and it's an annoying door-to-door salesman...
[SFishy] how are we going to get around him?
[SFishy] suggestions?

[penguinlady] super soaker water gun
[kenmarie] ignore him
[harshreality] yah (that was mine :P)
[froggyone] talk our way out
[Kellicious] Tell him I am in a hurry.
[juliaf] walk across the street to the other side
[lori] pretend you don't speak his language
[jcardall] turn around and go to another store!
[nas] pretend you don't speak english
[kenmarie] say no thanks
[lion] say 'no thanks
[penguinlady] tell him i don't have carpet
[heavenlymists] tell him i dont have money
[harshreality] don't make eye contact
[kathryn] politely say not interested and walk away
[candylion] run past really quickly
[Kellicious] take a detour
[elise_gardens] nsneeze alot!
[lori] buy something to make him happy
[heavenlymists] dont answer the door
[penguinlady] tell him I just got out of jail and on house arrest
[harshreality] give him the finger
[harshreality] heh
[heavenlymists] look for an other way out
[kers] cross the street. fast.
[harshreality] give him an adamant NO..
[heavenlymists] hide
[elise_gardens] cough alot
[lion] go round the block
[harshreality] keepdoing that
[candylion] wait untill somebody else is walking past, then walk behind them so he can't see you
[penguinlady] sick my non stop talk daughter on him
[quinn] donot answer the dorr
[jcardall] keep walking, make no contact...look down
[jcardall] act like a bum and ask him for spare change!
[penguinlady] fart really loud
[froggyone] avoid him at all costs
[quinn] pretend no one is home and he will leave
[elise_gardens] hehhehe
[nas] tell him you have something to sell him

[MrFishy] WOW!!!
[MrFishy] you ALL just got past that salesman!

SFishy reminds everyone -- lets keep our answers positive

[MrFishy] Now we walk along....
[MrFishy] humming a tune....
[MrFishy] and we come to Dever Street...
[MrFishy] and the obstacle there is an angry dog...
[MrFishy] how do we get past THIS obstacle?
[MrFishy] suggestions?

[elise_gardens] you dont
[candylion] make friends with it
[penguinlady] snarl right back at him
[KShine] offer him a steak lol
[froggyone] squirt him with a water bottle (it works on a bike)
[harshreality] find the owner, tell him to chain him suing eye contact
[unfymonkey] cry..scared of dogs
[heavenlymists] run
[lion] throw him a bone
[Kellicious] Walk in another direction
[nas] walk away
[brodie] stand still
[kenmarie] dont make eye contact
[nas] throw him some meat
[kathryn] walk way around him
[Kellicious] is he on a leash?
[penguinlady] pray
[kenmarie] walk around him
[lori] wait for someone else to walk by and when the dog gets busy, run by
[heavenlymists] or get in a spot and hug your self while screaming
[juliaf] im still across the street so i am safe =)
[unfymonkey] walk to the other side of the street
[harshreality] find someone to help you walk across the street
[elise_gardens] lol
[kers] smile and move slowly so he's not scared of me.
[lion] turn back, wait for someone to come along and walk with that person
[nas] call animal control
[unfymonkey] walk past him..but always face him
[kenmarie] talk calmly to him as you cross
[lori] throw him a bone
[elise_gardens] is this a pitbull?
[heavenlymists] get my mase
[KShine] find a different route
[heavenlymists] lol
[heavenlymists] i hate pitbulls
[heavenlymists] man eaters
[jcardall] lol
[harshreality] me too
[unfymonkey] i cant think.. i stil lhurt, lol
[elise_gardens] i was attacked by one before
[heavenlymists] im still trying to get past the sales man
[penguinlady] give him my lunch i was to eat
[unfymonkey] good one peng
[jcardall] good one penguin
[unfymonkey] share your lunch with it :)

[MrFishy] ALRIGHTY!!!
[MrFishy] we got past THAT tuff one....

[SFishy] that was a difficult one... but we all managed to get around him... his bark was worse than his bite
[SFishy] so the next obstacle
[SFishy] is the car accident detour... this is on Friday Street
[SFishy] cops all over the place...
[SFishy] how are we going to get passed it?
[SFishy] suggestions?

[froggyone] obviously someone doesn't want me at that store...i'm going back home
[heavenlymists] ide watch the accident
[harshreality] don't look...walk caually
[unfymonkey] :(( my friend just died in an accident friday..
[elise_gardens] watch till its over
[nas] ask for police escort
[Kellicious] walk around the cars and cops
[bri] turn around ad get a new route..i had to do that the other day
[kers] ask a police offic where to go to get back on track.
[heavenlymists] and for i was going to the store,i always for get
[kenmarie] go another way
[jcardall] too many things to get through...I am going home
[KShine] go to sleep and wait LOL
[juliaf] walk by looking down at the ground so you don't see anything gross
[brodie] find another way to go
[kathryn] ask if they need help, if not go around
[harshreality] go around immediately
[penguinlady] stop and pray then follow the detour
[quinn] going to the store wasn't meant to be that day
[jcardall] agree
[froggyone] me too
[quinn] there's tomorrow
[jcardall] yeah
[froggyone] exactly
[candylion] follow someone else who is trying to get past
[jcardall] the gods don'twant me at the store
[harshreality] just unlacky person
[heavenlymists] gods??

[SFishy] lets not make excuses and try to find our way around

[brodie] that's life
[elise_gardens] follow the ambulance
[unfymonkey] ask if we can help wiht anything
[jcardall] get the taxi and avoit the detour
[penguinlady] just wait until its over

[MrFishy] Good deal!
[MrFishy] for those who were persistent....we sure got thru that one!!!
[MrFishy] AWESOME!!
[MrFishy] now.....
[MrFishy] on to hardy street.....
[MrFishy] ohoh....
[MrFishy] the obstacle is a drunk man shouting....
[MrFishy] how do we get thru THAT one...
[MrFishy] suggestions?

[kenmarie] ignore him
[heavenlymists] ide get scared and run back home
[Kellicious] shout right back at him!
[bri] get drunbk and shout with him
[brodie] ignore him
[unfymonkey] calm the guy down
[penguinlady] give him some humor and walk on
[nas] ignore him
[jcardall] that is tough
[kenmarie] act like we can see him
[penguinlady] ignore him
[quinn] cover your ears
[harshreality] hide
[lori] hand him another drink
[jcardall] I am scared of angry drnks
[kenmarie] go around
[KShine] ummmm tell him there is a liquor store giving out free alcohol a street over
[KShine] LOL
[kathryn] ignore him and walk around
[unfymonkey] run away
[jcardall] lol
[kenmarie] cross the street
[froggyone] ignore him
[harshreality] run...
[nas] just keep walking
[unfymonkey] call the cops
[brodie] don't bother me and I wont bother him
[lion] walk across the road and go on
[harshreality] run so fast he can't see you
[bri] talk to him and find out whats going on
[jcardall] don't acknowledge him
[aenimus] yeah, cross the street and keep walking
[penguinlady] keep an eye on a safe place and walk to it
[candylion] I really want to get past, but I would be too scared
[heavenlymists] im scared of drunks to,thats why i would trun and go home
[kenmarie] get someone to help him
[juliaf] close your eyes and start running to the store because you are so scared at this point that you don't want to think about having to go back when your purchase is made
[Kellicious] I would probably mess with him.
[unfymonkey] look down, cross the street, dont pay attention
[harshreality] look for someone else to go wtih
[kenmarie] get someone to walk past with you
[bri] tell him you need to scaream to and join him
[penguinlady] wait for someone to cross the street with
[elise_gardens] act like your a cop
[unfymonkey] walk behind him.. he may not see you
[harshreality] find a friend who'll keep you safe
[lion] i'd be scared by now, would probably be running
[penguinlady] jaywalk
[harshreality] get a bodyguard
[candylion] look for someone friendly, then walk past with them
[froggyone] do we have to face all this on the way back home from the store???
[lion] lol
[Kellicious] tell him the cops around the corner and to leave me alone
[jcardall] lol
[unfymonkey] HE CANT RUN... so you run! :D
[penguinlady] pull out the rollers on my new shoes and skate away from him
[jcardall] true...the cops are down the street, you wouldn't have to worry about him
[elise_gardens] tell him he dropped something
[bri] drink with him and have some fun
[candylion] or just run
[penguinlady] invite him to an AA meeting
[froggyone] elise...tell him he dropped his pocket...he'll look forever
[kenmarie] maybe he needs help? see if u can do anything
[nas] ask him what he is yelling about
[unfymonkey] get him sober

[SFishy] Great answers all...

[MrFishy] WOW!!!

[SFishy] of course we could always go back and get the cops from the accident ;)
[SFishy] the next street...
[SFishy] It's Mockingbird Lane
[SFishy] and this is the last one to get through and we get to the store...
[SFishy] (thank goodness)
[SFishy] there's an open fire hydrant...
[SFishy] and it's spraying all over and making a humongous puddle...
[SFishy] there's about 6 inches of water all over the street...
[SFishy] how do we get around?
[SFishy] suggestions?

[nas] that would be awesome... i'm going right through it... i love puddles
[froggyone] swim
[kenmarie] SURF
[lion] swim across :)
[aenimus] walk through it - i love water
[unfymonkey] call the water company, and go play in it before you freeze to death :)
[penguinlady] don't ...run through it because it's stinkin hot here
[bri] swim in it and have some fun..or jump in it and splash people
[Kellicious] I get in it and PLAY
[brodie] take off shoes and walk thru it
[kenmarie] walk around
[candylion] take of my shoes and socks and paddle
[jcardall] I love puddles...stop and play!!!
[unfymonkey] SWIM!!!
[heavenlymists] YES! whater,now i dont need to buy any at the store
[kenmarie] take shoes off
[juliaf] have fun with it and make splashes to cool off from runnig past the drunk man
[unfymonkey] forget the store! go in the water!!!!!
[nas] run through as fast as i can so i get wet
[jcardall] walk on the sidewalk and avoid the water
[unfymonkey] throw the drunk man in the water
[aenimus] definatly
[kenmarie] run
[harshreality] well, you're kinds stuck...no use going back and facing all those toher obstacles again.
[kenmarie] jump through it
[jcardall] lol
[kathryn] walk around puddle/street - let someone know it needs to be fixed
[elise_gardens] where does that water come from?
[penguinlady] let my dog, who is with me, swim then giver her a bath
[kenmarie] go up to the next street
[brodie] throw drunk man in water and walk on his back, use him as a bridge
[harshreality] find higher ground and go through
[unfymonkey] LOLOL
[jcardall] lol
[nas] dog paddle through
[aenimus] hehehe
[lion] lol
[unfymonkey] jump from car to car over the huge puddle
[jcardall] fun!
[froggyone] there isn't anything at the store i need this bad
[kenmarie] cross the street
[nas] back float
[penguinlady] water ski across with my dag as the boat
[unfymonkey] invite all the other fishies to play
[jcardall] lol
[unfymonkey] LOL!
[unfymonkey] peng
[elise_gardens] lol
[candylion] yes, swim we r all fishys
[heavenlymists] time!!
[jcardall] yeah!

[MrFishy] AWESOME!!

[SFishy] glad to see everyone likes water so much ;)

[MrFishy] Guess what????
[MrFishy] WE MADE IT!!!
[MrFishy] And this JOURNEY that we all took
[MrFishy] had many DIFFRENT OBSTACLES
[MrFishy] that were placed before us all...
[MrFishy] but being PERSISTENT

[SFishy] and determined

[MrFishy] we were aLL able to OVERCOME each and everyone one of them...

[MrFishy] and since i didnt tell ya before
[MrFishy] what store we ALL were reachoing....
[MrFishy] ill tell ya nOW!
[MrFishy] A BOOK STORE....
[MrFishy] and tommrow.....since EVERYONE tried and gotr thru this...i gope you ALL take a journey to YOUR nearest bookstore...
[MrFishy] and buy a new or first journal....
[MrFishy] cause you ALL earned it!

[SFishy] We had some unique problems...
[SFishy] we faced them and got through them
[SFishy] and this is where we get into talking about self-fulfilling prophecy...
[SFishy] if we talk ourselves OUT of doing something...
[SFishy] by saying "I can't"
[SFishy] "It wasn't meant to be"
[SFishy] "I'm too scared"
[SFishy] etc...
[SFishy] we'll convince ourselves that we just CAN'T do it
[SFishy] but in most cases...
[SFishy] we can.

[MrFishy] there was a boy once...
[MrFishy] and since a kid he had a dream...
[MrFishy] it was to pitch in the major leagues...
[MrFishy] play baseball...
[MrFishy] he TOLD himself he could...
[MrFishy] and he ended up pitching for the yankess....
[MrFishy] his name was jim abbott...
[MrFishy] he had only one hand....
[MrFishy] no one stopped him from doing...
[MrFishy] nmost importantly...HE didnt.

[SFishy] In recovery...
[SFishy] we face MANY obstacles every day...
[SFishy] things we have to get through to make it to the other side...
[SFishy] a lot of times...
[SFishy] when things are rouhg
[SFishy] we convince ourselves that we just can't do it... it's too hard... "I'll never recover"...
[SFishy] ...
[SFishy] A is where you are at...
[SFishy] Z is recovered
[SFishy] everything in between are the challenges you face...
[SFishy] so the next question...
[SFishy] What kind of obstacles do you feel are placed in front of you on your own personal path to recovery?

[froggyone] my boyfriend
[harshreality] MYSELF
[kenmarie] me
[jcardall] scales
[penguinlady] my fitting
[unfymonkey] MY MOTHER.. saying its a phase and not getting the help i need
[froggyone] college
[aenimus] me
[bri] abandonment
[candylion] wanting to recover
[nas] i am afraid of being fat
[m_richa] my situation
[purple_tao] that no one understands what I'm going through
[unfymonkey] ME
[harshreality] fear
[unfymonkey] friends
[jcardall] too tires
[kenmarie] fat
[jcardall] me
[lori] the attention I get from being sick
[heavenlymists] rejection,sham,timidness
[unfymonkey] lots of fear
[kenmarie] fear
[unfymonkey] pain
[nas] fat
[harshreality] the constant struggle it takes
[jcardall] weight obsession
[unfymonkey] $$$$$
[kenmarie] food
[juliaf] feeling unsettled
[heavenlymists] feeling weak not strong
[harshreality] stupid decisions
[kathryn] not taking time to eat healthy meals
[heavenlymists] money
[bri] hating myself
[kathryn] scared at work
[purple_tao] confusion
[froggyone] getting far and still not being recovered
[kenmarie] clothes
[nas] insecurity
[unfymonkey] not having anyone to look to
[froggyone] wanting it all back
[unfymonkey] scared..
[lion] fear, confusionn and feelings of panic
[lori] being single
[jcardall] feeling powerless
[kathryn] want to procrasinate at work by eating
[jcardall] ...
[jcardall] ..and hopeless
[heavenlymists] failing
[unfymonkey] worthless
[candylion] trying to make it look like everything is okay
[purple_tao] feeling fat
[lion] failure
[lori] lonely
[aenimus] anxiety
[kathryn] feel bored don't know what to do
[jcardall] unsure
[froggyone] failure
[harshreality] hatred
[unfymonkey] anxiety
[lion] out of control
[nas] i hate food
[kenmarie] control
[unfymonkey] myself..
[elise_gardens] i dont know
[harshreality] too many emotions to deal with
[kathryn] feeling lonely
[jcardall] too hard
[unfymonkey] my parents
[purple_tao] feeling like the happiness of my entire universe rests on the scale when I step on it.
[heavenlymists] saying im ok and i dont need help,when deep indise i need help
[juliaf] wanting people to see what i do as normal instead of not being normal
[unfymonkey] knowing and not doing
[jcardall] not worth it

[MrFishy] good share!

[SFishy] lets looks at some of the obstacles...
[SFishy] feeling powerless... or feeling out of control...
[SFishy] how do you think you can get through this?
[SFishy] suggestions?

[bri] getting healthy=control
[purple_tao] hmm......
[unfymonkey] i draw a blank :\
[kenmarie] ?
[harshreality] finding inner strnegth
[purple_tao] thinking about me
[elise_gardens] um
[nas] how do you get healthy control?
[harshreality] where-ever that may be, if it exists
[purple_tao] wondering why I do this to my body
[kathryn] sit down- try to relax for moment
[harshreality] picture yourself doing it...recovering
[heavenlymists] exepting that we have a problem that we cant handle on our own
[lion] ...?
[lori] find another area in life that you have control in and concentrate on that
[jcardall] I haven;t figured that one out
[purple_tao] write down my feelings

[SFishy] hint: MAKE TREATING YOURSELF *GOOD* A PRIORITY

[harshreality] thinking of all the things you missed out on
[nas] talk to a professional
[purple_tao] hard to do sometimes. feel like I'm not worthy
[harshreality] finding a helping hand..
[candylion] persuade yourself that you have less control if you are engulfed in ED
[purple_tao] feel worthless at times :(
[nas] come to the bowl and talk to my friends here
[unfymonkey] I want chocolate...but lactose n tollerent :(

[SFishy] great answer candylion

[jcardall] giving up power to a therapist will give you the perspective to change
[kathryn] oh hey! Remember to feel good about myself, I'm worth it
[recoverygirl] hi
[purple_tao] WANT to live
[jcardall] hi girl
[unfymonkey] RCG!!!!!
[recoverygirl] hi
[kenmarie] decide you deserve better
[unfymonkey] ((((rcg)))

[SFishy] what is REAL power? what is REAL control?

[recoverygirl] ((((((((((rooom))))))))))
[sweetdancinbabe] ok i'm a little embaressed to say my situation to anyone...
[purple_tao] having an ED is not living
[nas] realize that i am worth recovery
[jcardall] decide you ARE better
[purple_tao] real power is kicking the ED out of our lives.
[kenmarie] living healthy
[lion] giving the body what it needs = control??
[harshreality] being strong and impactful

[MrFishy] YOU GO PURPLE!!!

[purple_tao] living/thinking healthy
[jcardall] real power is living normally, not sontrolled by food thoughts
[purple_tao] healthy isn't skinny
[froggyone] knowing that an ED is in control
[nas] tell myself every day that i am worthwhile
[recoverygirl] real power is going against the ed thoughts
[purple_tao] skinny isn't healthy
[kathryn] Remembering that I don't always have to be in control
[bri] being healthy and not focusing on all the stuff you feel is bad
[kenmarie] realize you really have lost control to the ed
[harshreality] gosh..I dislike that word, "healthy"
[juliaf] realizing that being in control of what goes in you is not you in control it is controling you
[candylion] real contol is being able make your own descisions which are NOT based purely on weight or food
[jcardall] me too, harsh
[jcardall] it is a hard one for me to face
[nas] love me
[purple_tao] not letting the damn scale rule your life
[unfymonkey] when you CAN make your own decisions and they turn out to be the best
[kenmarie] put myself first
[recoverygirl] real power is being able to go through life... without hurting myself
[purple_tao] um..um..
[purple_tao] love
[nas] give myself a pat on the back instead of a kick in the butt
[harshreality] being able to deal with good and bad things
[purple_tao] :)
[jcardall] I don't know
[elise_gardens] hm
[unfymonkey] im lost.. lol
[nas] stop being so negative
[froggyone] sneaking to the bathroom to throw up (on a college campus...community bathrooms) is not control

[MrFishy] Honest sharing...i like that!

[SFishy] great answers...
[SFishy] lets look at another obstacle that a lot of us face in recovery...
[SFishy] loved-ones...
[SFishy] and the support or lack of support they give can sometimes feel like an obstacle...
[SFishy] what can we do to overcome this?
[SFishy] to move on towards recovery?

[purple_tao] feel safe in their love for us
[unfymonkey] i dont know.. im stuck in this situation at the moment....
[froggyone] talk to them...make sure they really understand what we are going through
[harshreality] eek...no family...not tonight
[jcardall] separate them from recovery and work on you
[froggyone] let them know we need their help and support
[aenimus] talk to them
[bri] use them as support instead of protecting them thinking ti will be worse
[harshreality] write a letter to them (like I'm doing now)
[candylion] you have to try to recover for yourself, NOT just for your loved ones
[purple_tao] know and understand they won't judge us
[nas] my family doesn't know... i am too ashamed
[recoverygirl] i can't even see my parents
[kenmarie] accept them for who they are and help them to except me for who i am
[recoverygirl] they are so sick
[recoverygirl] they hold me back
[archergirl] forget that they don't care, that you can live without their love!
[juliaf] avoid my parnts and try to understand that my cousin only argues with me because she wants me to see what i am doing is bad
[purple_tao] too scared to tell anyone, tho
[harshreality] educate them
[unfymonkey] Having my mom understand that its not a phase that im sick..really sick and need help
[kenmarie] try to see their point of view *** sweetdancinbabe (~sweetdancinbabe@207.214.214.252) has joined #ED_MainEvent
[recoverygirl] but i still want to please them
[jcardall] what purple?
[recoverygirl] no matter what
[heavenlymists] i hate this ede,cuz i feel discusting
[kenmarie] understand that they're scared too...
[heavenlymists] ashamed
[purple_tao] want to share with loved ones, but can't
[purple_tao] too ashamed and scared
[unfymonkey] wanting to tell.. need the courage...
[harshreality] try not to abuse them..
[recoverygirl] i wish my mom was able to love me
[nas] me too purple
[jcardall] I understand
[kathryn] explain that I have my own way
[harshreality] not to use them, or manipulate their efforts
[nas] i can't tell anyone
[archergirl] know that their values aren't yours
[purple_tao] fear
[bri] tell them you are doing this to hurt you..not them
[purple_tao] fear that they'll judge me
[harshreality] make sure they understand

[SFishy] purple -- "can't" equals won't -- consider telling someone... secrecy is the protector of ED

[recoverygirl] being a SEPERATE person from them
[heavenlymists] wishing my mom was there for me instead of teasing me
[jcardall] it is better for me to not talk to them often because they shame me a lot and I don't need that
[heavenlymists] about my ed
[purple_tao] oh no........... too ashamed
[unfymonkey] living in TWO worlds... but ashamed of one
[juliaf] help them to understand more instead of telling them to leave you alone because tehy don't get it

[MrFishy] ashamed=obstacle.

[recoverygirl] wishing my mom would go to therapy
[kenmarie] see a therapist together
[purple_tao] how about: they wouldn't understand?
[archergirl] make them see me for me...not my accomplishments
[recoverygirl] hurts she won't
[harshreality] wsihing for a new family...
[kenmarie] educate them
[jcardall] realize the difference between need and want. of course we want our family to supprt....
[aenimus] i wish my mother wasnt so melodramtic, then i could talk to her maybe
[heavenlymists] wishing people understand that it not all about wanting to be thin
[jcardall] but if they won't, we don't need to feel ashamed
[heavenlymists] its a depression thing as well
[unfymonkey] wishing to get help... early in this ED that i KNOW i have, but they dont think i do

[SFishy] tell them that heavenlymists!

[harshreality] wishing and wishing but KNOWING that wishing won't change a damn thing.
[kathryn] I don't need to feel ashamed
[harshreality] DOING something
[heavenlymists] they dont listen
[nas] i wish i didn't feel ashamed but i do
[unfymonkey] true harsh
[recoverygirl] wishing i could feel safe w/them in my life

[SFishy] then keep telling them

[heavenlymists] they say its for attention
[jcardall] we may want to feel bad about it, I know I want to feel bad about things, but I don't NEED to
[bri] give my mmo to someone else who wants her support and help
[heavenlymists] but it not for ateention

[SFishy] OR don't let it bother you

[elise_gardens] im never good enough
[harshreality] hard to communicate..
[recoverygirl] they don't want to even try
[purple_tao] yes, WANT to tell
[heavenlymists] i wish i was the only one who knew about my ed
[unfymonkey] Wanting to move out.. but knowing its bad for you... but yo want to get away
[recoverygirl] to be in my life
[purple_tao] try to get courage
[kenmarie] live your own life and recover for you not them
[recoverygirl] all i want is for them to go to therapy
[nas] try to be less insecure
[harshreality] find alternate ways to say things
[juliaf] i can understand that heavenly
[recoverygirl] yes, ken
[purple_tao] it sounds so selfish, tho, to say to everyone: I NEED HELP!!
[recoverygirl] definately
[unfymonkey] all i want IS therepy..
[recoverygirl] recover for me
[kathryn] sometimes they say things just to validate there own way of thinking, not always right
[recoverygirl] not them
[jcardall] say it purple
[harshreality] purple, it's getting what you need
[jcardall] it is a good thing
[harshreality] getting your needs met
[purple_tao] too selfish
[lion] wish i cd find the words to explain how i feel
[archergirl] i want to gain weight and not care!
[jcardall] there is nothing wrong with needing help
[ZansD] I don't think it is selfish purple
[recoverygirl] yes harsh

[SFishy] great sharing all...

[MrFishy] good shares!

[SFishy] I want you to THINK about the obstacles in your journey...
[SFishy] think about the things that feel like they hold you back...
[SFishy] think about them each separately (rather than as one collective BIG obstacle)
[SFishy] and approach each as if you need to get around it to go to that store...
[SFishy] because there are answers to all of them
[SFishy] and each of us has to find those answers personally...
[SFishy] so for example...
[SFishy] people don't understand... they think it's all about weight and food... I can't tell them I'm too ashamed...
[SFishy] think of the people you CAN rely on for support...
[SFishy] think of the ones that you think you MIGHT be able to talk to...
[SFishy] and talk to them
[SFishy] write letters to them if you have to...
[SFishy] understand that they aren't going to "get it" overnight...
[SFishy] but your loved-ones usually DO want to help
[SFishy] figure out how you are going to ask for it

[MrFishy] at times...
[MrFishy] in life...
[MrFishy] we become our worst enemies...
[MrFishy] we subconciously place these obstacles in front of us...
[MrFishy] but just like our visualization...
[MrFishy] we CAN overcome each and everyone one...
[MrFishy] sometimeas.....
[MrFishy] it takes a little imagination to figure it all out ;)

[SFishy] and remember...
[SFishy] if you tell yourself
[SFishy] "I can't"
[SFishy] all the time...
[SFishy] then you won't
[SFishy] you will convince yourself that you can't
[SFishy] and it most cases
[SFishy] YOU CAN
[SFishy] with all that in mind...

[MrFishy] DEFINATELY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[SFishy] lets do affirmations tonight that pertain to overcoming obstacles...
[SFishy] TELL ME HOW AND WHY YOU *CAN* and *WILL* RECOVER
[SFishy] and that *NO OBSTACLE CAN STOP YOU*

[MrFishy] hit me with um!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[purple_tao] I rule!!!!!!!
[harshreality] I need it
[nas] i am a good person
[purple_tao] I compare myself only to myself
[ZansD] because there are people in my life that need me
[recoverygirl] i want to live
[harshreality] I'm worth it
[unfymonkey] i really need it, for me
[jcardall] I AM WORTH IT
[purple_tao] Peace of mind is happiness
[kenmarie] im a teacher and i need to be here to help kids
[nas] I AM A GOOD PERSON
[heavenlymists] i know i need help,i just dont have the streth to do alone
[kenmarie] people care about me
[candylion] it isn't fair on my family if I don't
[archergirl] so i can just put my life to good use and help others instead of being so selfish
[unfymonkey] I AM LOVED!!!!!
[recoverygirl] I DESERVE HAPPINESS
[purple_tao] get more out of your life
[kenmarie] i deserve to be happy
[purple_tao] I like what I see
[unfymonkey] I LOVE MYSELF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[recoverygirl] I DESERVE SUCESS
[kenmarie] I LOVE ME
[kathryn] I will becasue I am worth it, I can because I can overcome obstacles
[jcardall] IT IS NOT MY FAULT, AMD I DIDN'T BRING THIS UPON MYSLEF
[harshreality] I DESERVE more than this
[purple_tao] I LOVE ME.....GOOD ONE!!!!!
[nas] I HAVE PEOPLE THAT LOVE ME AND CARE ABOUT ME
[recoverygirl] IT IS NOT MY FAULT
[kenmarie] ITS NOT MY FAULT
[purple_tao] FANTASTIC
[juliaf] because i will learn one day to forget about my parents
[purple_tao] I RULE
[kenmarie] I CAN DO IT
[unfymonkey] I NEED BOLD PRINT !!! LOL
[heavenlymists] i want to be happy and feel like i am valued
[recoverygirl] I AM A GOOD PERSON
[kenmarie] I WILL DO IT
[nas] I DON'T DESERVE THIS CRAPPY ED
[unfymonkey] I WILL DO IT!
[kathryn] I can
[archergirl] you can't love others untill you love yourself
[jcardall] IT IS WORHT IT
[nas] ED'S SUCK
[harshreality] I WILL GET THERE
[purple_tao] I DIDNT' DO ANYTHING TO DESERVE THIS
[unfymonkey] I DONT DESERVE TO BE SICK
[jcardall] LIFE CAN AND WILL BE BETTER
[MrFishy] HIT ME SOME MORE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[recoverygirl] I WILL NOT LIVE MY LIFE IN PAIN
[purple_tao] ED'S SUCK!!!!!!!!YEAH!!!!!!!!!
[candylion] it isn't fair on my friend if I don't
[unfymonkey] I DONT DESERVE THE PAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! TOO MUCH PAIN
[purple_tao] I WANT TO LIVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YEAH!!!!!!!!
[nas] I AM GONNA KICK ED BUTT
[recoverygirl] I WANT TO RECOVER
[harshreality] I CAN
[jcardall] IT ISN'T FAIR TO ME TO LIVE LIKE THIS
[harshreality] I WILL
[juliaf] that some where sometime all things will eventually work out with perserverence
[purple_tao] I'M SICK OF HURTING MYSELF
[recoverygirl] I DESERVE TO RECOVER
[lion] I WILL GET THERE!
[harshreality] I'm GOING TO
[kathryn] i WANT TO
[unfymonkey] I CAN!!!!!!!!
[purple_tao] NO ONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[recoverygirl] I WANT TO LIVE
[kenmarie] i need to
[jcardall] I WANT TO HAVE A LIFE BASED ON ME, NOT ON WHAT I EAT OR WEIGH
[heavenlymists] it not fair to the ones who want me to get help
[purple_tao] WE ALL RULE AND WILL GET BETTER !!!!
[kathryn] i AM WILLING TO TRY

[MrFishy] YOU ALL ARE WONDERFUL DESERVING PEOPLE!!!

[recoverygirl] I WANT TO LOVE ME
[purple_tao] I WANT INNER PEACE
[recoverygirl] FOR ALL OF ME
[nas] I AM A GREAT PERSON
[harshreality] I WANT MY LIFE BACK!!!!!!!!!!!
[purple_tao] THINK LESS......DREAM MORE
[recoverygirl] INSIDE
[unfymonkey] owww..
[kenmarie] I DONT NEED IT
[kathryn] i NEED PEACE OF MIND
[recoverygirl] I WANT TO FEEL SAFE
[juliaf] i want to reach my dreams and have been close to recovery before so ifi can do it once i can do it twice =)
[purple_tao] WOMAN POWER!!!!!!! (sorry Mr. Fishy)
[recoverygirl] IN MY OWN SKIN

[MrFishy] [smiles]

[archergirl] i've been given the oppurtunity to do something with my life, i can't throw it away!
[candylion] the people around me don't deserve it
[nas] GIRLS RULE
[recoverygirl] I WANT TO BE A GOOD MOM
[purple_tao] A LITTLE SUPPORT GOES A LONG WAY

[MrFishy] BOYS DROOL!!!

[recoverygirl] I WANT TO BE SUCESSFUL
[nas] LOL
[jcardall] RELIZE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN IRRATIONALITY AND REALITY
[unfymonkey] WE ALL RULE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[kenmarie] lol
[harshreality] hehehe
[lion] lol
[unfymonkey] I WANT TO BE THE OLD ME
[sweetdancinbabe] lol
[purple_tao] TAKE TIME TO LAUGH.....IT'S THE MUSIC OF THE SOUL
[recoverygirl] I WILL SUCEED
[jcardall] DON'T STUFF MY FEELINGS, THEY NEED TO COME OUT
[juliaf] learn to accept instead of reject help
[purple_tao] PEACE
[purple_tao] LOVE
[nas] LAUGHTER IS AWESOM
[purple_tao] HAPPINESS
[nas] OOPS
[unfymonkey] TO LAUGH SO MUCH YOU CRY, AND LAUGH HARDER
[haywood] hi everyone, is this a recovery chat time?
[nas] SO IS LEARNING TO SPELL
[jcardall] I AM JUST AS OIMPORTANT AS ANYONE ELSE IN THIS WORLD
[nas] LOL
[harshreality] NEED moRE
[purple_tao] WE RULE
[kenmarie] SMILES
[juliaf] remember nothng happens over nite
[kathryn] i WILL ACCEPT MY FEELINGS
[harshreality] WILL DO MORE
[recoverygirl] I WANT TO CRY AND NOT BE ASHAMED
[kenmarie] I CAN ACCEPT MYSLEF
[unfymonkey] TO ACTUALLY smile FOR ONCE!
[purple_tao] I WANT TO BE OVER OF THIS SHIT AND GET ON WITH MY LIFE

[MrFishy] YES!!!

[harshreality] WILL LIVE WITHOUT ED
[recoverygirl] I WILL FEEL, AND TOLORATE IT
[jcardall] i WANT TO EAT AND NOT WORRY ABOUT IT
[archergirl] i love life
[lion] I DESERVE HAPPINESS and to LIVE EVERYDAY TO THE FULL!
[aenimus] i want to be happpy
[purple_tao] YEAH BABY
[recoverygirl] I WLL BE HAPPY
[jcardall] I WANT A REAL LIFE
[purple_tao] NAS!!!!!!!!! SCREAM IT GIRL!
[kathryn] i WON'T TRY TO CONTROL EVERTHING
[nas] I'M NOT TO BAD FOR A GRANDMAY.... LOL
[candylion] no one can love me if I am dead
[kenmarie] I WANT to live
[unfymonkey] I HATE THE PAIN....I DONT NEED IT, I NEED THE HELP
[recoverygirl] I WANT TO NOT CARE HOW MUCH I WEIGH
[nas] I WISH I COULD SPELL
[nas] LOL
[purple_tao] I WANT TO LOVE ME

[MrFishy] AWESOME!!!

[recoverygirl] I WANT TO LOVE ME TOO
[kenmarie] I 'M HERE FOR MORE THAN TO LIVE WITH AN ED
[jcardall] I CAN DO THIS
[purple_tao] I WANT TO LOOK IN THE MIRROR AND LIKE WHAT I SEE
[archergirl] i want to be normal again
[jcardall] GETTING HELP DOESN'T MEAN I AM WEAK
[recoverygirl] I WANT TO LIVE
[unfymonkey] I WANT TO LIVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[kenmarie] I WANT KIDS SOMEDAY
[purple_tao] I WANT INNER PEACE
[nas] PURPLE.... YOU ARE BEAUTIFUL.... I HAVE SEEN YOU
[recoverygirl] I DON'T WANT TO FEEL GUILTY
[juliaf] to know what it is like to smile a true smile again
[purple_tao] LOVE THOSE FUZZIES
[lion] "AT LEAST IN TRYING, NO ONE CAN CALL ME A FAILURE"?
[recoverygirl] I WILL NOT FEEL GUILTY
[purple_tao] I WANT TO ENJOY LIFE
[jcardall] I WANT A RELATIONSHIP WITH MY FAMILY AGAIN
[unfymonkey] I WANT TO CRY, BUT FROM HAPPYNESS

[MrFishy] LION: BINGO!!!

[recoverygirl] I WILL NOT BE ASHAMED
[kenmarie] I WONT FEEL INFERIOR
[heavenlymists] i want to love my self
[purple_tao] WE'RE NOT FAILURES.....JUST STRUGGLING
[nas] I WANT TO LAUGH MORE AND CRY LESS
[jcardall] I WANT MY LIFE BACK
[jcardall] I WANT MY FAMILY BACK
[archergirl] i miss ice cream!
[purple_tao] YOU CAN DO ANYTHING IF YOU HAVE PASSION
[kenmarie] I WILL FEEL STRONG

[MrFishy] YES PURPLE!!!

[heavenlymists] i want to be stronger
[purple_tao] I WANT ME BACK
[jcardall] I WANT MY PARENTS BACK
[nas] I WANNA HAVE FUN AGAIN
[heavenlymists] i dont want to feel inslaved in my self
[purple_tao] NO ONE IS REALLY EVER NORMAL :)
[archergirl] i need my friends back!
[kenmarie] I REMEBER HOW I USED TO BE AND I MISS MYSELF
[recoverygirl] I DESERVE TO EAT
[purple_tao] HAPPINESS IS UP TO **YOU**
[kenmarie] FOOD IS NOT MY ENENMY
[kathryn] I want to be alive
[unfymonkey] i want my parents help NOW, not before i get worse
[recoverygirl] FOOD IS NOT MY ENEMY
[unfymonkey] i deserve it!!!!
[juliaf] IF I PUT AS MUCH WORK INTO GETTING BETTER AS I DID GETTING SICK I CAN SUCCEED
[purple_tao] NOTHING BRINGS YOU PEACE BUT YOURSELF
[recoverygirl] I WILL RECOVER
[nas] I WANT TO FEEL GOOD MENTALLY AND PHYSICALLY
[jcardall] BECAUSE I AM WORTH IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[recoverygirl] I WILL NOT DIE
[jcardall] NO MORE!
[jcardall] NO MORE
[purple_tao] JOY, PEACE, HAPPINESS, LOVE
[recoverygirl] IM DONE
[heavenlymists] i dont want depression to get me
[recoverygirl] W THIS ED
[kenmarie] I WONT DIE FROM THIS
[purple_tao] I WANT MORE!!!
[jcardall] NO MORE! THIS WILL END
[nas] ME TOO *** SFishy sets mode: +m

[MrFishy] AWESOME SHARES!!!

[SFishy] GREAT AFFIRMATIONS ALL!!!!
[SFishy] You did really good tonight...

[MrFishy] You ALL rule!!!

[SFishy] think about those obstacles... and how you are going to tackle them...

MrFishy pats everyone on the back tonight!

[SFishy] because most of the time, the only thing holding us back from getting through recovery is ourselves!
[SFishy] We'll be doing a follow-up game on the bulletin board...
[SFishy] in the FISHING FOR SUPPORT forum...
[SFishy] so watch for the game there... it will be posted in the next 10 minutes

[MrFishy] Dont forget to treat yourself to that journal..you ALL earned it tonight!

[SFishy] YES... get to that store and buy yourself a nice new "how I'm going to get through my obstacles" journal!
[SFishy] We'll see you all next month...
[SFishy] September 26th at 10pm
[SFishy] (eastern time) *** nas (~nas@207.190.90.100) has left #ED_MainEvent

[MrFishy] Be your best freind...not your worst enemy!
[SFishy] and have a great night!
[SFishy] TAKE CARE OF YOU!

[MrFishy] BE good to you all!!!
[MrFishy] Nitters!

[SFishy] good night everyone!



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